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Sunday, March 19, 2017

Are We Ready For The Draft In About A Month?

I don't think we are, but what do I know. I think we still have a lot of needs. I know we have 10 picks, but I don't like feeling like we have to take a T with one of the first two picks.

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  1. New post comment:

    I read Joe Thomas cap hit is 9 mil for the next two years, I think that is pretty good.

    Also Cleveland wanted a 2nd rounder and Barrett last time we tried to trade for Thomas. So that value is much nicer than firsts.

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    1. Doing a quick google has different results.

      They asked for a 2016 1st and 2017 2nd.

      2016 1st and 2nd.

      Then there is the mention of Barrett. Which I remember killing the deal because we wanted to keep him.

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  2. Oh Jessica. Haven't seen her in a while. Nice.

    Hey Gould, it's tomorrow.

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    1. I wanna frisk her, she acts like she's hiding something in her bikini...

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    1. LOL
      Enlarge your screen to get a closer look to see if she's hiding something.

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  4. If this becomes true, remember where you heard it first.
    I think it's obvious Garrett is the #1 pick in everyone's mocks. However, if you look at Cleveland'S roster, the one thing they do have is decent young edge rushers and signed Collins to big money. Pair that with him not really wanting to go to Clev. He almost begged JJ to get him to Dallas. Anyway I see them trading #1 to SF who need Garett more and are about the only ones who can afford the steep price of #1. SF have become the Broncos copycats and need their Von Miller. They swap 1st for SF's 3rd this year and next year.

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  5. For those that were considering trading 2 #1s for old man Thomas, and justifying it bu saying they would be late first round picks, remember that we have used similar late round picks to maneuver around to select Shane Ray, Bradley Roby, Sly Williams and Derek Wolfe. And we have/had them for 4/5 years at low salary caps. So again, 2 #1s for an old man. No way no how.

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    1. I get it that Joe is good, great even, but all those years with Clev and how did their "O" do with him? Not so hot. From 2009 to 2016 the Browns offense with Thomas ranked; 32, 29, 29, 25, 17, 23, 25 and 30th. Their OL ranked in those same years; 10, 17, 18, 16, 30, 14, 30 and 32nd.

      Of course that's not on Joe Thomas, my point is with Joe, just 1 great OL guy, the Browns still stunk on offense and OL, so those thinking that if we just sell the future to land him, think again. Can 1 man really make that much difference to be worth the cost?

      I agree with ya OBF, factoring age, money and trade costs, I don't see the value in jumping on him. Now if he wanted to come to Denver so bad that he'd take a small decrease in salary and if Clev let him go for say 5th or lower and say Crick thrown in (Clev needs D), then yep, go for it.

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    2. Biggest thing about this is I've only heard about any of this from wishful thinking Bronco fans that see a huge hole even after FA. The agent that talked about it never said how much it would take or even if it was an option. He only said Joe loves the Rocky Mountains when asked point blank if Denver could persuade him to come. My "sources" say it isn't even an option.

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  6. See Jets signed McCown. That leaves Texans and maybe the Browns as the only teams without QBs. Which means Culter hasn't got a seat yet without many spots left.

    Will he become a back up ahaha

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    1. I think a year off as backup would do him some good. A bunch of teams already have their backups in place too though. I'm not sure who has an opening. Maybe Arizona. Palmer gets hurt all the time.

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    2. We may have an opening :P

      Him crying on the sideline all year is going to be good.

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  7. My 40 which is semi mock draft.

    Myles Garrett
    Jonathan Allen
    Solomon Thomas
    Leonard Fournette
    Jamal Adams
    DeShaun Watson
    Mitch Trubisky
    Marshon Lattimore
    Malik Hooker
    OJ Howard
    Derek Barnett
    Reuben Foster
    Corey Davis
    Jabrill Peppers
    Dalvin Cook
    Ryan Ramczyk
    John Ross
    Mike Williams
    Garett Bolles
    Haason Reddick
    Marlon Humphrey
    Christian McCaffrey
    Malik McDowell
    Taco Charlton
    DeShone Kizer
    Forrest Lamp
    Zach Cunningham
    Fabian Moreau
    Obi Melifonwu
    David Njoku
    Evan Engram
    Cam Robinson
    Charles Harris
    Budda Naker
    Quincy Wilson
    Takkarist McKinley
    Cark Lawson
    Tre'Davious White
    Teez Tabor
    TJ Watt

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    1. Not positive, but I think that's what Head did also. I'll try to get them averaged out then sometime today. Anyone else can do it too! It will be later today before I get to it. Thanks for doing it for me.

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    2. I see you have Watson above Trubisky. Interesting for the fact that Cleveland, SF, Chicago and the Jets could all think Watson has more upside as a leader, but may need a journeyman type to fill in for this year. With most of them already having that guy in place (unless Clev does cut Oz), I see Watson as the wildcard this year. In fact you could say the top QBs are somewhat like the top LTs. Ramz like Trubisky, most ready to play now, but a lot of question marks as to whether he is "the" guy. Watson like Bolles, a little undersized, but seems like best chance to have longer NFL career(OK maybe not. Bolles iS old already). Keizer like Robinson. Never mind this is a stupid comparison thing, but I'm going to leave it. Take from it what you want. Main point I guess is QBs and LTs are not top of 1st round status that we have become accustomed to. Instead we have safeties topping the mocks, which is not a position that should be taken that high, IMO. They rank with RB, LB and TE in my book. Not positions that should go in the top 10 unless they are above average for players of that position throughout the history of the NFL. What I mean by that is, if Hooker and Adams are for sure the next Eric Berry then maybe they deserve to be that high. If they aren't much better than the #3 safety this year, then maybe not. Is Foster the next Kuechley? Doubt it. Is Howard the next Gronk? Doubt that too. Are any of the RBs full time studs? I feel Fournette could be. I guess if I were a GM at the top of this draft, I would probably go with who I determined was the best at a very strong position this year. A prime position. CB. There are many very good ones this year. Most teams need another one. You can never have to many CBs. I predict there will be at least 4 CB taken in the 1st round. And that is with one top guy falling out with injury who I think will be taken high in the 2nd round. CB and pass rush specialists will be a priority for most teams in round 1. OL will be gobbled up top of 2nd round. All the teams at the top need OL, but there are none worthy of going top of 1st.

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  8. Day 13 of the Tony Romo Hostage Crisis

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    1. I take it your feeling is we are saving the rest of our cap space for him and that's why we haven't made any more moves.

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  9. Jerry really is an ass. My former secretary was an in law of Jerry's left hand man. She went to many family events where Jerry was there and he really is an aloof, privileged, better than anyone else, know it all, jackass. Pretty free with his money to family and does family things up right, but still a jackass.

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  10. Hey Head, if you're there, will you look at your list and tweak it for me? You have Cook twice.

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    1. Wiil do. Damn. I told you I had myself confused!

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  11. OK
    I went ahead and moved everyone up one spot from #19 on, but that makes only 31.

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    1. Please put Tre'Davious White in there in place of the second Cook.

      Thanks!

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  12. So you know how we got screwed on a 3rd round comp pick because they took Okung's total contract into account? Well seems like we have a chance to get that back next year now. Webster cancelled out Leary.

    http://predominantlyorange.com/2017/03/17/denver-broncos-2/

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    1. I do love getting comp picks, hopefully we use them correctly.

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    2. I can't believe how it wasn't a big deal not getting any before Elway got here.

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    3. I like the comp picks but do not like losing free agents to get them.

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    4. Here's what I think the difference is in what Elway is doing. We used to re-sign a lot of our FAs to a 2nd contract. Then after that they would leave. Partly this was easier to do because there wasn't a 5th year option on 1st rounders. Most of the young players don't establish themselves well enough for an outrageous contract in year 5. Then after or during that 2nd contract we would cut them or lose them to injury, getting nothing for them. Elway is letting them search for the lucrative big 2nd contract elsewhere. Most of the ones he let escape for the payday have not panned out and got cut or got hurt at their new place. The trick though is in the buying or aquiring the new vets to replace the one we lost. It's impossible to figure out the comp picks entirely, but to have a good feel for what cancels out what. For instance, the Okung contract being ranked as a 3rd round and the Leary contract being slotted as a 4th. That means even though the contracts are close, Leary is dropped down to get cancelled by Williams and Webster cancels Watson as 4th rounders evendors though the con tracts we paid are more than the contracts the guys we lost. Watson covers Peko and the the other signees are below the 32 comp pick limit because of their contracts.

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  13. Mel Kiper's latest draft has us taking TE David Njoku with our first round pick. Maybe I'm gun shy because of our many failed tight end picks, but I think we can do better. If they do take him, or another tight end, in the first round, that would be no doubt confirmation the Huerman is officially a bust.

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    1. I do not want a new TE. I will take a new slot TE/WR like Evan Engram! Otherwise I think Green, Huey, Derby, ect. are fine. I feel the same about our RBs. Unless we get that guy that can actually get outside with his speed, I don't think we need one. I realize CMAC can do a lot more than RB, but does he have enough speed?

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  14. I would like to see the Broncos resign Vance Walker if he has recovered. He looked really good in training camp before he went down.

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    1. IDK what is up there. My guess is unless he gets swiped up, we'll look at signing him after Romo. LOL.

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    2. I t would be alright with me if we signed him now and then NOT sign Romo!

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    3. There is a chance we are hoping he signs somewhere else because of what I said above. If he can get a new team and we can get someone equivalent that has been cut instead of a FA it would be a plus for the comp pick situation. Say what you want, Elway does put a lot of stock in getting as many of the free picks as possible. To me, it's just smart business. It's like taking a tax break in real business. If it's there, why not use it to its full potential. Draft picks are valuable. Especially since you can trade them now. Maneuverability in the draft. Gotta love that. I hope we use our 3rd from Jackson to move up in the 2nd this year. Moton seems about as good as any of the OT going in the 1st round.

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    4. Trading down from #20 works too, but finding a team willing to give up anything to move up for the questionable players there at #20 is hard. At best it is a move down of a few spots at a time.

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    5. I hope he signs here. We can't possibly get much in terms of compensatory picks for him. Plus, we might have to use a 2017 pick on an additional lineman if we dont sign him. So maybe the picks are a wash.

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  15. Yeah I think we are in a holding pattern waiting for Romo.

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  16. A disturbing comment on our free agency class from Pro Football Focus:

    These are the grades PFF gave to Denver’s signings in free agency: Leary, B; Watson, D, and Peko, F.

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  17. CBS is making a strong push to hire Romo, per Adam Schefter.

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  18. The Broncos are bringing in Cam Robinson for a pre draft visit

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  19. John Elway said "the plan is to stay the course" with their 2 QBs, Trevor Siemian and Paxton Lynch.

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    1. Also said we have 'no intent' to go get Romo.

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  20. The Oakland Raiders are officially the whores of the NFL. All you have to do is negotiate price and they are yours. How in the world do they maintain a fan base?

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    1. Sucks for the fan base, heaven forbid the Broncos leave Denver.

      NFL was never about the fan but the money, that should be clear now.

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    2. At least stabbings at NFL games will be down 100%.

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    3. Joe Ellis was turning green talking about the new Raiders digs. He mentioned how wonderful the Denver taxpayers were to build the Broncos stadium - EIGHTEEN YEARS AGO..., cough, hint, hint. Is that Joe writing on the wall?

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  21. I understand the need for the media to link Romo to us and Elway could still be just laying in wait in the grass on him. Ready to pounce, but his words are reassuring as of right now.
    Did you see Kap thinks he's getting $10M and a chance at starting! Yeah, where? I hope not us.

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    1. Ya Kap is just plain lazy. The only time you see him on TV he's setting on his ass on the bench. Sorry, couldn't resist...

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    1. I have never tried to understand the cap. You would think though that some of those reporters who do, or even the fans that do, would've known this was coming. At least the team did! Saving money for Romo my ass. Saving it to repay a loan they knew was due. We have no money for Romo. Thank goodness. Elway's answers in writing seemed like he's sick of the same old questions too. Romo...blah, blah, blah. "Yes, I know we need a LT!" Haha! I love it. Tell them straight out what's up and they still deny it. Even today, after he told them we're not going after Romo, you can bet your ass people are still reporting we're going after Romo.
      Anyway, Elway says he will get us a LT. There will be options. Don't fall for every LT that opens up (Dunlap). There will be more chances. Yea!!! This is what I've been trying to get across on MHR. It's like when we got Ware. He came available out of nowhere, haha, when we were working on Jared Allen. I remember being as adamant about not wanting to sign him, just like I am with Dunlap not being our answer. Dunlap is not a better option than just starting Stevenson. At least the FO seems to know that.

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  23. Saw some recent pictures of CJ Anderson. Looking a little porky. i'm tired of him always coming to camp in bad shape and always sucking the first half of the season.

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    1. haha, agreed, but nobody is paying me millions to be a running back. oink oink

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    2. If only everything was as easy as getting fat!

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    1. Nice. Vance getting on DT. Bout time someone on coaches do that.

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  25. I'm going to grade the 2016 draft after 1 year. I know, I know, you need to wait about 3 years, but I'm doing it anyway.

    1st Round - Lynch
    2nd Round - Gotsis
    3rd Round - Simmons
    4th Round - Booker
    5th Round - McGovern
    6th Round - Janovich
    6th Round - Parks
    7th Round - Dixon

    I don't know about Lynch. He needs major improvement. Gotsis did not show much. I liked Simmons a lot. Booker did not impress me, but it may have been the line's fault. McGovern, who knows. I liked Janovich, who knows what his role will be going forward. Parks did some good things on special teams and was a good 6th round pick. Dixon got better and was ok, but at altitude should be a lot better.

    Overall, after just one year, I would give it a C. The long term evaluation will obviously be heavily based on Lynch.

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    1. So, First Houston steals Osweiller. Then, Dallas really wants Lynch last year. We jump up and take him. Dallas takes Prescott, whom we also liked, and he has a great rookie year. Os sucks. Lynch struggles. Then it looks like Dallas will get rid of Romo, because they have Prescott. Some in Denver think Romo will come here. Romo records his goodbye to Dallas dipshit fans. Houston pays to get rid of Os. Butthead Jerry Jones shows that he is an ass and does not release Romo.Blah,blah,blah,blah.

      I'm so over it. Let's go Siemian.

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    2. Yep, pretty much it. I'm alright with Lynch not being all that, as long as Siemian is! Between the two of them I hope McCoy'S got something to work with. The offense has to be better. It can't get a whole lot worse.

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    3. OBF, A "C"? Naw, I'm much more generous, with "C" being the lowest grades to Lynch, McGovern, Gotsis, "B" to Jano, Booker and "A" to Simmons, Dixon and Parks.

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    4. Trade up in 1st round and who knows what you got. 2nd round pretty disappointing. 4th round so so.

      I will stick with C for now.

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    5. Bronco1st, if I weight your grades based on the round selected,(7 points for 1st round...1 point for 7th round), your weighted grade would be a C+. This makes sense because you are giving a C to the 1st 2nd and 5th round picks. In my opinion, the early rounds should carry more weight in a one year evaluation.

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    6. OBF - Sorry, but I disagree. It's like the glass half full/empty adage. To me, a 1st rounder is expected to grade well, so if yer weighting it heavier because of the round, then a poor grade should be even worse! If yer drafted in the 7th and perform like a 1st, your grade should be slanted higher - in other words, why penalize a guy for exceeding expectations or reward a guy for failing to reach expectations?

      I read an article today that mentioned 8 of the top 12 selections of the 2013 class are no longer on the teams that drafted them... that's 2/3rds of the top 12 picks failing. Seems to me if a guy is a low rd pick or an UDFA and performs at a "C" or better level, then if any player gets a grade boost because of where they were picked, he should.

      So, back to the half full/empty thing, if yer looking at how much a player hurt (empty) his team or helped (full) his team based on where he was picked, then again, the kid who was picked low but excelled way beyond his draft slot is far more valuable to any team - especially if you consider the pay scale.

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    7. Umm, by weighting it by round, a first round pick that is bad is weighted worse. That is why you ended up with a C+.

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    8. And I agree if you found a star in the later rounds, but they did not. I gave good letter grades to Janovich, Parks and Dixon because of the round that they were selectec, so it makes no sense to give them even more weight when that is already taken into consideration in the letter grade.

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    9. Actually, I ended up with a "B" for the class with a C for the first 3 I mentioned, B for the next 2 and A for the last 3. That's 8 players graded on a scale of 5 to 1 points (A through F) which gave me 32 total points divided by the 8 players is 4 or a solid B average.

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    10. Actually, you gave the Class a B and I offered an opinion that if you weighted your individual grades by round selected it was a C.

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  26. Haha. So your grade is who knows!

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  27. Digger, what happened to the mock draft/top 40 you were going to put together with our 3 or 4 ones?

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    1. Sorry. I'll get it. Lost my notes. Got redo them.

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    2. Oh no! That is a lot of work to lose!

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    3. No just the notes on the averages. I'll start it over this weekend.

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    4. I have no idea what that means you Aussie.

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    5. As in your a Legend. Being awesome.

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  28. Here is the average of our rankings. It didn’t really do for me what I was expecting. I thought that within a few picks it should make for a decent 1st round mock draft. Not really the case, IMO. Oh well. Thanks for playing along Head and Gould.

    1 Myles Garrett DE
    2 Solomon Thomas DE
    3 Jonathan Allen DT
    4 Jamal Adams S
    5 Leonard Fournette RB
    6 Marshaun Lattimore CB
    7 Malik Hooker S
    8 Reuben Foster ILB
    9 Deshaun Watson QB
    9 Derek Barnett
    11 OJ Howard TE
    11 Mitch Trubisky QB
    13 Mike Williams WR
    14 Dalvin Cook RB
    15 Ryan Ramczyk OT
    16 Haason Reddick OLB
    17 John Ross WR
    18 Marlon Humphrey CB
    19 Malik McDowell DT
    20 Corey Davis WR
    21 Taco Charlton DE
    22 Garett Bolles OT
    23 Christian McCaffrey RB
    24 Jabrill Peppers S
    25 Cam Robinson OT
    26 David Njoku TE
    27 DeShone Kizer QB
    28 Zach Cunningham OLB
    29 Forrest Lamp OG
    30 TreDavious White CB
    31 Obi Melifonwu S
    32 Fabian Moreau CB 
    33 Charles Harris DE
    34 Evan Engram TE
    35 Takarist McKinley OLB
    36 T.J. Watt OLB
    37 Jarrad Davis LB
    38 Alvin Kamara RB
    39 Chidobe Awuzie CB
    40 Caleb Brantley DT
    41 Gerald Everett TE
    42 Teez Tabor CB
    43 Budda Naker
    44 Chris Wormley DE
    45 Tim Williams OLB
    46 Quincy Wilson
    47 Carl Lawson

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    1. Nice, it may not help but it will be interesting to see how close we got.

      This all depends on if stupid teams doing stupid things. As I think the Jets will draft a QB like Watson early.

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  29. So on average, Ramczyk is gone when we pick so we think the Broncos take WR Cory Davis and then Bolles gets taken two picks later.

    It really will be interesting to see what we do with picking tackles, because I'm sure we'll take several somewhere during the draft.

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  30. Per Mike Garfalo on Twitter:

    Jerry Jones notified all NFL GMs they are permitted to contact Tony Romo or his agent to schedule a workout, visit or physical, source says

    4 Minutes later he updates:

    The Cowboys informed clubs they are "limited to conversations concerning (Romo's) 2017-19 NFL player contract." (i.e. to facilitate a trade)

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  31. Broncos Re-Sign ERFAs C Matt Paradis & WR Jordan Taylor

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    1. If Matty P is back to his best I would resign him long term.

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    2. eh, at best he is an average center.

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    3. He graded out as the best center in the league?????

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    4. Best center in the NFL according to PFF and that's "at best he is an average center"? LOL now I understand why your 2016 draft class got a "C"! Just ribiing ya, some Bronco fans on DP wanted the Broncos to cut him... everyone has an opinion.

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    5. Did some digging, the page I saw had him at 1 at the mid way point and another page after 13 weeks. He got beat at the post by Travis Frederick and was no 2 overall for the year. With a 90.1 grade. Was our best oline men by far.

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  32. Romo retiring, going in to broadcasting. NBFD.

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  33. So, no mo Romo. I have analyzed our QB situation versus all of the other teams in the NFL. In my opinion, we are in a better situation than 6 teams, equal to 9 teams and behind 16 teams when it comes to QBs.

    Better than: Cleveland, Jets, Houston (haha), Chicago, Minnesota, and SF.

    Same as: KC, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Miami, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Philadelphia, Arizona, and Rams

    Not as good as: Oakland, San Diego, Pissburg, NE, Indy, Tennessee, Dallas, Washington, Giants, GB, Detroit, Saints, Carolina, TB, Atlanta, and Seattle.

    Any thoughts, or as usual do you guys think that I am perfect in my analysis.

    I would like to see growth in either TS or PL so that we could clearly be in the top half of the league this year.

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  34. Hard to argue with your analysis. It will be interesting to see how several of the aging QBs do this year. Phyllis Rivers for one.

    I'm hoping to see growth in both of them but my fear is that if PL is the starter, we go through another year of rookie QB pains. I don't know if TS is completely over that, but we do need better overall QB play this year if we have any chance of being competitive.

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  35. Romo retiring and replacing Phil Simms. Win win!

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    1. Dehag will be burning all his Phil Simms neckties and glamour posters.

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    2. Phil Simms being replaced is the best part of this story.

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  36. Jim Nantz; Welcome sports fans to CBS' first broadcast of the 2017 NFL season. With me tonight is our newest color commentator, former Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo - say hello to the fans Tony.

    Tony; Phanks Yim aund hewoff effryfrone.

    Jim; Ummm, what?

    Tony; Soffry, hewoff effryfrone.

    Jim; Did you say hello everyone?

    Tony; Nodding his head, "Yef, thaff wight".

    Jim; Sorry, did you say "that's right"?

    Tony; Yef.

    Jim; Sorry but yer speach seems a little slurred, are you okay?

    Tony; Yef, bwoke toofh.

    Jim; You said you broke your tooth?

    Tony; Yef

    Jim; I'm sorry to hear that - can you continue?

    Tony; Yef, thome nofacaine... an O'l beff fhine

    Jim; Um, uh ya, okay, it must really hurt? What a trooper ladies and gentlemen, my hat's off to you Tony!

    Tony; Phanks Yim

    Jim; How did it happen?

    Tony; Hifftit onfth ta micofphoem.

    Jim; Did you say you hit it on the microphone?

    Tony; Yef, thaff wight.

    Jim; Looks like we're ready for the kickoff and there it goes, a long, high, boomer and Oh MY! He muffed the catch and the Broncos recover! Looks like Bronco's ball on the 8. Is that how you saw it Tony?

    Tony; Yef, he tolly bwoo it... YEEEOWCH! YEEOWY! MA WEG! MA WEG! I phink I bwoke ma weg!

    Jim; Oh my God Tony, are you alright? What happened? One minute you were jumping out of your seat from the fumble and the next thing I know, you're writhing on the booth flor in pain - can you move it?

    Tony; NOOH! I BWOKE IT, I BWOKE IT! Cwall a twainer! Hoowy!

    Jim; Folks, unfortunately we are forced to take you to commercial while we get some help for Tony... I'm afraid it looks like this may be a season ending injury for Tony... Is Phil still standing by in the green room? I told the producers...

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    1. Might be the funniest post on here ever.

      Thanks for the laugh.

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    2. Yer welcome, I couldn't help but see the humor of Romo going on IR at CBS.

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  40. Sorry, kept finding typos.

    I am not an expert on OL play especially Center, but I know that I saw Paradis knocked back on his ass many times. If he is the best Center, the rest must play the entire game sitting on their ass. I'm not saying he is bad, nothing wrong with average. In my opinion, he is better than about half of the league and not as good as half of the league. While he probably was our best OLman in 2016, I would clearly take Centers such as Pouncey, Mack, Hudson, Fredrick and Kelce over him. I don't think he approaches their level.

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    1. I'm not as PC as others, but no wonder this 2nd round pick was wasted. (pun intended)

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    2. Best lineman in the Broncos last year is kind of like being the tallest midget on the basketball team??!

      How's that for not PC?

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  42. Marshawn Lynch is visiting the Raiders and msome sources expect him to sign.

    Fuck me.

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  43. $20 Million cap hit for Von this year. Love him but too bad he is greedy.

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    1. He would probably get more on the open market. He is being paid like the best in his field (that he is) and I don't mind. Cap keeps increase so the cap hit gets less.

      I'd be more concerned with the dough DT is making.

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    very funny man. Loved it.

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    nobody's perfect. Paradis is hot right now, but PFF rankings don't mean shit to me either. I do agree most of the guys you listed are above him. I hope he fits being a little undersized. I also hope his hip surgery did what it needed to do.

    We took Ball over Lacy because of Lacy's knees. Hindsight says Lacy was better pick. Actually we wanted Bell. Should've traded up for him.

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    1. We talked about that on MHR a while back. When our picks have been on the bottom of the 1st round like Williams and Roby, the 5th year option isn't really a good option. It ends up being to high. Even though it is a valuable position, Roby isn't worth 9M a year. That what Talib and Harris make. I bet Elway drafts a CB high this year. It'S a deep draft at CB, a good one will be there at #51. We need one to replace Webster anyway. Then Elway can decide if he excercises the 5the year option, let's Roby walk or sign him to an extension after this year. My bet is he'S gone. We hardly ever pay enough to keep good talent we let get to FA. We will want him for about 6M and he can get the 8M we didn't want him for from some other team. Harris and Talib are signed through 2019, I think.

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  46. Broncos resign Bennie Fowler and Kapri Bibbs

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  47. Sorry boys was away on vacation for two weeks. Romo retires, we resign a few players. Draft is up next. I wonder if Elway will do some wheeling and dealing this time. He always talks about they consider it, but never really do. I wonder after missing out on Campbell if they will do something. We have a few main glaring holes on the lines that have to be addressed. Not sure we can get both a starting LT and starting DT without making some deals to move up to get good guys. I am sure there are some sleepers and I know the top guys don't always work out. But we need to upgrade over last year and we haven't done that yet. I was surprised they let Sly go without having someone in place. I think they thought Campbell would sign with us and were banking on that happening. Looking forward to the season though.

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  48. I think the intend on Pecko and Kerr to replace Sly. I would have let him go to. He was not very effective. Now someone will probably tell me that PFF has him ranked as the #1 nose tackle.

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  49. Barrett, Ferentz, Zaire Anderson and Todd Davis sign free agent tenders.

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    1. There we go! Big boy NT! Peko may not have much left in the tank and the younger Peko needs time too. I think Kerr (I think that was his name) may be able to play some NT as well. I like it. We need to keep building trenches every year! Need beef!

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  51. 2 weeks left yet til draft. Looking good at #20 for getting someone good. With CB being deep this year seeming like best value may be had there. Our choice of all but Lattimore. Humphrey sounds good to me.

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  52. I'm ok with picking up Roby's option. We are only one Aqib Talib dipshit move away from needing a starter for several games while Aqib serves a suspension. Roby is no Talib, but I doubt we'd find anyone better than Roby on short notice. I love Talib's play, but his offield activities and on on field emotions are going to catch up with hom one day.

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  53. According to Tom Pelissero of USA Today, the league has closed its investigation into Talib’s 2016 shooting, and won’t suspend him.

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    1. That's great, but I'll stick with WHEN it catches up with him.

      From Wikipedia:

      Talib has had several conduct related issues since his NFL career started. At the NFL rookie symposium in July 2008, Talib was involved in a fistfight with fellow Buccaneers rookie Cory Boyd.[24] On August 20, 2009, Talib allegedly battered a taxi driver,[25] and he was arrested by Florida Highway Patrol and booked into the Pinellas County jail, charged with resisting arrest without violence and simple battery.[26] In March 2011, police in Garland, Texas issued a felony warrant for Talib for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon after accusing him of firing a gun at his sister's boyfriend.[27] He was later released on $25,000 bond. Talib was indicted on the charge in May 2011.[28] On June 18, 2012, the charges were dropped due to insufficient evidence and character concerns with the accuser.[29]

      In the early morning of June 5, 2016, Talib was shot in the leg outside a Dallas strip club. He was released from the hospital the same day. [30] It was later revealed that Talib falsified the report, having actually shot himself in the leg and lied to police. [31]

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  54. Well I was convinced we wouldn't pick up his $8.5M 5th year option. With one of our top 2 picks in a draft filled with quality CBs we could've replaced Webster for this year, Roby for next year and got a good comp pick the next year for Roby leaving. Not to mention, as head said, cover our asses for future Talib craziness. We still might draft a CB in the top two rounds this year, but my logic for it takes a hit by signing the 5th year option on Roby.

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    1. So the Broncos basically gave him a one year deal for 2018 for $8.5M. I'm happy with that, he has starting talent and we play with 3 corners so many times, that I agree with picking up the option. Just to assume we can draft someone that will be at the same level is scary to me. Lots of highly ranked CB's available but its always a crap shoot in the draft. Also, we can use the higher picks for other areas of need.

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    2. Yeah I'm not upset they used the 5th year option. Now we have 3 top CBs signed for two more years. I'm not sure if it will effect any other moves next year. Talib and Harris both are signed through 2019 I think. Maybe we trade one of them (doubt it) because paying 3 CBs more than 8.5M a year is kinda unrealistic.

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  55. Rumors around that the Broncos will open the season at home on Monday night against the LA Chargers.

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  56. Yep.
    4 of first 5 games are at home. Bye week is week 5. Hello to a strong start.

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  57. Pretty tough schedule, based on opponents from last years results. With as much shuffling that goes on due to free agency, you'd need a pretty good crystal ball to see which team will be up and which will be down this year.

    The early bye week sure wasn't a favor either. Although, that might put in a natural enough break to make significant changes (like change starting QBs??) if things start out bad.

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    1. If we start out bad and have to re-evaluate the starting QB at week 5 we're in for a very long year. The first 4 sound very winnable since 3 are at home.

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  58. So happy we're not a dysfunctional organization like Cleveland, NYJ, JAX, ect.

    Word is Cleveland owner putting pressure on to get Trubinski #1 overall instead of Garrett.

    NYJ wasted 2nd round pick on Hacklenberg only to be thinking QB at #6 again this year with many other important needs they should draft instead.

    Jax has to decide on 5th year option for Bortles, which would pay him 18M next year or draft his replacement this year.

    Personally, I don't see this QB class much worse than last year's class when teams traded up for them. I think QBs will go to high again this year. Maybe as many as 4 going 1st round and quite possibly 6 or 7 in the top 50. Good news for us. Maybe it gives us trade down power. As always, I'd much rather have more 2nd and 3rd round picks than the 1st even though it comes with the 5th year option.

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    1. Normally, I would agree with the trade down power. This year, though, we already have 10 picks. Many of them are real low picks, but we still have 10. Not sure what the real values of round 7, 8, 9, and 10 are, but chances of landing any real talent in those rounds is extremely slim. Unless the picks we can get are in the first or second round where the impact players tend to be, I'm not sure we need many more picks. Now if we can trade those late round picks as part of moving down to accomplish more earlier round picks, then sign me up!

      Something like "we'll give you our one for your 1 and 2 but we'll throw in our 8th and 9th round pick too." That ought to leave Elway talking to Mr Dialtone pretty quickly!

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    2. Atlanta wants to move up. Our 1st and 5th for their 1st and 2nd sounds good to me.

      Depends on what you want our first pick to be I guess. If you want BPA, there will be plenty of talent there at #20. If you want OT at #20 no matter what, then I hope we trade down and take one later.

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  59. My thoughts on the draft...this will be long.

    Looking through the roster these are the holes/spots I can see us looking at.

    Starting on defense. The LBs. We have a need at ILB. Davis is there but I can see us upgrading him. Question is when? I'm hot on Reddick but we have a lot of money interested in LBs with Von and Marshall on big contracts and Ray getting close to his 5th year option. But then again a rookie on a 4 year deal is cheaper.

    At Safety we are set. Got the two rookies last year and both look capable, plus there is the two starting vets.

    Corner we could look at. With big money in Harris and Talib, and now Roby with his fifth year we don't want to be spending big here. But something has to give and Talib age is getting up there. I think he will hit that wall soon, so may be worth drafting someone now to add to that mix. Can be our fourth for a year or two replacing Webster to take over once we move on from Talib. With this draft being so deep at corner I think we pass in the first and target that second round pick for a corner. That is my call, round 2 corner.

    Defense line, I like the group we have, there is some talent there but Wolfe is the only star (currently). I could see us surprising everyone and taking a DT in the first round but I don't think there is any one in our price/pick range.

    Summary: LB, CB, DT.

    Offense

    We will add a signal caller, Vance already said he wants a 3rd QB. Hopefully it will be late in the draft.

    I like our RBs. CJ is good runner between A and B and Booker is a better B gap runner plus he has great hands. We don't have anyone I think that is a great outside runner C gap (speed guy) but we don't necessarily need one. We should add to this group to keep the numbers up. But a first rounder like McCaffery? I don't know. I like his versatility and we need a returner, but do you spend a first rounder on a guy that can do a lot of things well or someone that is awesome at one aspect?

    Wide Receivers. This will be the third year in a row where I say we need a no 3 receiver, a big body player that can be physical in the red zone. We clearly lack it. Latimer was meant to be but hasn't come along enough. Taylor showed some skill there last season but he lacks the talent to get separation in the middle of the field and be the true number 3. We need a Kevin Benjamin type guy. This then frees Sanders up to move around. Play him left or right, in or outside. Have both him and DT on the same side of the field. The possibilities.

    Offense line. I've said my thoughts in the past. Schofield and Ty should be guards. So we have enough guards and centers but no tackles. At minimum I want two from this draft but would prefer three. With what I've listed above I've spent 6 of our 10 picks. So 3 tackles gets us to 9.

    And with that last pick a TE. I do like this group more than other people do. Heuerman is coming along and this is a show year for him, I consider last year his rookie season. I think he has the size and ability to impact games and be a true TE. Derby is a pass catcher only and I think he can develop further there. Green is a blocking TE that has issues with concussions, not a good combination. I'd like a project later in the draft for this group to groom. I don't think an OJ Howard type impacts the game enough for us...but he could be that number 3 receiver. Though that is another pass catcher to a good group of pass catchers already.

    Summary: QB, RB, WR, 3 OT, TE

    That's my 10. I'd target OT, LB and maybe RB in the first. Second round I believe will be a corner.

    Then fill out the spots with other talent. QB and TE late. WR and DT middle rounds.

    I'm done....

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    1. Oh come on, you got more than that. I only saw one name, Reddick.

      I really want our 3rd threat/red zone target/new slot WR to be a priority. Maybe even above LT.

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  60. Let me start off by saying I am a big John Elway fan. He was our best player ever and turned our franchise into the premier franchise that it is. He then came back and got us another championship as a GM.

    However, I am going to play a little Devil's Advocate on his drafting history. I know that folks on here have a higher opinion of his drafting history than I do. It is critical that we draft better this year and start making better choices on the OL and RB.

    Here are our first round picks under Elway:
    2011 Von Miller
    2013 Sly Williams
    2014 Bradley Roby
    2015 Shane Ray
    2016 Paxton Lynch

    I think Elway has done a great job in the first round, especially with some guys that have fallen due to various issues, like Roby and Ray.

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  61. Here are the 2nd round picks;
    2011 Rahim Moore
    2012 Derek Wolfe
    2012 Brock Osweiller
    2013 Montee Bell
    2014 Cody Latimer
    2015 Ty Sambrillo
    2016 Adam Gotsis

    The 2nd round has been a disaster. Other than Wolfe, we have struck out, including some picks that everyone else thought would be available in later rounds.

    Digger, you always want to get more picks, but hopefully we don't get any more 2nd round picks. lol

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  62. also need to add Orlando Franklin to the 2nd round in 2012. He was a decent pick.

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  63. Round 3
    2011 Nate Irving
    2012 Ronnie Hillman
    2013 Kayvon Webster
    2014 Michael Schofield
    2015 Jeff Heuerman
    2016 Justin Simmons

    Simmons may turn out to be the best of this group. I believe these draft picks are in total below average for 3rd round picks.

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  64. 4th Round
    2011 Quinten Carter
    2011 Julius Thomas
    2012 Omar Bolden
    2015 Max Garcia
    2016 Devonte Booker

    We have done reasonably well in the 4th round, in my opinion.

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  65. 5th Round
    2012 Malik Jackson
    2013 Tavarius King
    2014 Lamin Barrow
    2015 Lorenzo Doss
    2016 Connor McGovern

    Given that Malik is in this group, I have to give positive results to this round

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  66. 6th Round
    2011 Mike Mohamed
    2012 Danny Trevathian
    2013 Winston Painter
    2014 Matt Paradis
    2015 Darius Kilger
    2016 Andy Jankovich
    2016 Willis Park

    Pretty Damn good performance for 6th rounders.

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  67. 7th round
    2011 Virgil Green
    2011 Jeremey Beal
    2013 Zac Dysert
    2014 Cory Nelson
    2015 Trevor Siemien
    2015 T. Nixon
    2015 Josh Furman
    2016 Riley Dixon

    Decent picks for 7th round

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  68. So what is my point. We do draft well in every round except the 2nd and 3rd. These are huge early rounds and our futility in these rounds in the reason that we have needs in our OL, RB, WR and TE.

    It's time to make much better picks on the offensive side of the ball.

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  69. Elway's drafts at OL

    2 Orlando Franklin
    4 Philip Blake
    6 Winston Painter
    3 Michael Schofield
    6 Matt Paradis
    2 Ty Sambrillo
    4 Max Garcia
    5 Connor McGovern

    Just not good enough. Not even close.

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  70. Elway's RB choices

    3 Ronnie Hillman
    2 Montee Ball
    4 Devonte Booker

    Not good enough.

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  71. OBF I agree. Elway has his weak spots in the draft like you said in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. But he has more than made up for it in the later rounds. His drafting is ok his FA work has been much better though.

    And sorry digger don't have many names for you. Haven't gone that deep into prospects.

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  72. Here's my two cents. Elway drafts alright in the first round because other than last year he stuck with defensive picks. If he is actually making these choices, he needs to continue it by pickING on the defensive side again this year at #20.

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    1. Why, so our offense can continue to suck and we waste any chance of capitalizing on our defense?

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    2. First of all I disagree with your conclusion that the offense will suck without adding anything. I like our QBs, RBs, WRs and TEs. I really think the reason we sucked on offense was play calling and very poor OL continuity. Personally I don't think the team last year was that far off from the team that won the SB the year before.

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    3. The offense was 27th in 2016 based on yards. They fell from 16th in 2015. The team fell from 12-4 to 9-7.

      I disagree 100% that last years team was not far off from the prior team.

      First on defense, they could not stop the run, or cover RB's on pass patterns, anywhere near what they did the year before. Losing Malik and to a certain extent Trevathian, hurt. Malik has not been replaced yet.

      And the offense was almost unwatchable last year.

      I am dumbfounded that you think this offense will be ok without some significant upgrades this year. We need better play from our young QB's. We need a threat at RB and CJ is just not durable or reliable. Booker seemed average. We need a 3rd WR. We need big time help at TE. And we have huge holes on the O Line.

      I maintain that the offense will likely suck without some more weapons.

      Throughout the history of the Super Bowl, a handful of teams have won SB's with great defenses and below average offenses, but none have ever repeated. It's just not sustainable for many reasons.

      So we need to keep and improve our great defense, but until we place some priority on the offense as well, we will remain behind KC and Oakland.

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    4. Well of course we get upgrades on offense. My point was without using the top picks on offense we could still be alright on offense.

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  73. I like Reddick, Foster if he falls to us now, McDowell or one of the good CBs that are bound to be there.

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    1. Reddick is the better talent for me, I have a feeling foster is another Bama lb bust. I agree the cbs are deep and have one pencilled in for round two. Though lb and Cb 1-2 means OT not until the 3rd. Can we wait that long?

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    2. I agree. I want...
      1. Reddick
      2. McDowell
      3. Humphrey

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  74. Better stay away from Ohio State cornerback Gareon Conley.

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    1. Ya. That's not good at all. That will cost him millions and might even teach him a lesson. Assuming it's true of course. With 4 people involved, the truth should eventually come out. One of them will crack.

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    2. I always wonder about the truth also. I used to always believe the girl, but you just can't do that anymore.

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    3. Lots of guys falling. When do you think Sidney Jones should be drafted? I'm thinking he'll still go top of the 2nd round.

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    4. Same thing happened to Collins and it wasn't proven, so who knows.

      Its pretty close to the draft for this to come out. Great way to screw up someones life.

      Will see if he is Collins or Cox.

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  75. Talk that Reddick and McCaffrey hottest names right now. Probably teams in the top 10 trying to get teams in the 20s like us to move up for these two.

    Just like reports we are hot on Bolles and Ramczyk makes me think the opposite.

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    2. Its that season. Where everything is a lie, smoke and mirrors.

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  76. Looking at photos from todays practice, CJ looks fat.

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  77. I saw where is is claiming to be at 223 and he says his normal playing weight is 218-222. From the looks in his pics, I need to get me whatever scale he's using.

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  78. CJ is not the answer. In the old days the players would get fat and out of shape during the offseason and then training camp was to get in shape.

    This is not the way it works anymore. CJ always is a slow starter and then is injury prone. Fortunately the contract we gave him last year was way front loaded so he was a salary cap drain last year at $6M, which was way too much for what he gave us. This year his cap hit is only $3M.

    Sometimes he run hard and is pretty good, but often he just does not carry his weight (haha).

    We desperately need a change of pace back with some homerun speed, and that is not Booker. I never thought that I would say we need a Ronnie Hillman type, but we do.

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  79. So Digger, you don't want to use any "top picks" on offense. When do you think it is ok to start using any "picks" to help the offense? 5th rd, 6th rd, 7th rd?

    Here's how many of our draft picks started on offense for most of last year. QB-7th rd, RB-undrafted, TE-7th rd, WR-1st Rd(from McDaniels), C-6th Rd, OG-4th rd, OG-3rd RD. Our 2 tackles and other WR were from free agency.

    Is it any wonder that the offense was dismal last year? We led the league in 3 and outs. We didn't even give the defense a chance to win games.

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    1. I'm thinking about the NE game when they had total disrespect for our offense. So they knew that they did not have to pass and did not put Brady in any situation to face our pass ruch, thereby taking away our strength.

      If Carr had not gotten injured we would have finished 8-8. We are closer right now to the bottom of the division than the top. We finished 3rd out of 4 only because the Chargers gagging so many games.

      And I just don't think it will get better until the offense improves. I do hope better system, schemes and playcalling helps, but we need more playmakers, better offensive linemen, more sizzle and more juice.

      This is the time to go get some offensive help. We have 10 picks, I think.

      I will stop being brutally objective once we take the field. That's when my orange blinders go back on, but for now it is time to speak out and let's have a great draft for a change, both offensively and defensively. And we could use a dynamic returner as well.

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    2. I don't really know what I was going for with that argument anymore. I think it was just spurred on by wanting top guy who falls to us at 20 and thinking it will be a defensive guy. Also about knowing only the top few picks usually amount to anything. Mostly just burned out from looking and wondering who it will be. Anxious for it to get going.

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    3. FWIW OBF here's my entry into MHR mock draft competition.

      20: R1P20 Trade down with Atlanta. They need to get ahead of Detroit and Miami for Charlton or Harris (whichever is left). #s 20 and 126 for #s 31, 63 and 174.

      #31-Dion Dawkins OT Temple 6-4 314

      51: R2P19 Trade up with LA Rams. #s 51 and 82 for #s 37 and 141.

      #37-Evan Engram TE Ole Miss 6-3 234

      #63-from Atlanta-Sidney Jones CB Washington 6-0 186

      82: R3P18 Traded to LA Rams

      101: R3P37 Tanoh Kpassagnon DE Villanova 6-7 289

      126: R4P19 Zach Banner OG Southern California 6-8 353

      #141-from Rams-Brian Hill RB Wyoming 6-1 219

      #174-from Atl.-Joshua Dobbs QB Tennessee 6-3 216

      177: R5P33 Jordan Evans OLB Oklahoma 6-3 232

      203: R6P19 Stevie Tu’ikolovatu DT Southern California 6-1 331

      238: R7P20 Montae Nicholson SS Michigan State 6-2 212

      252: R7P34 Ben Boulware ILB Clemson 6-0 238

      253: R7P35 Javarius Leamon OT South Carolina State 6-7 332

      UDFA
      JOSH HARVEY-CLEMONS SS- LOUISVILLE
      HARVEY LANGI ILB -BYU
      Riley McCarron WR Iowa 5-9 188
      DT Tyrique Jarrett 6-2, 340
      PK Rigoberto Sanchez 5-11, 188

      Lots of offense!

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    4. One more thing I was thinking when saying our offense wasn't so bad except poor OL continuity and bad play calling. I expect all to play better than they did last year. Especially DT and all the TEs. The QBs will be better too with more experience.

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  80. I agree with OBF our defense is much closer and still will be a top unit if we drafted 0 defensive players in this draft. While I'm not here to say we don't have holes on defense that would be nice to fill of those I see ILB, DL (both DT and DE), and CB depth being our main concerns. ILB and DL are the most pressing needs on defense CB is important for injury insurance and for the future if we part with Talib or Roby.

    If we go defense early I like many here would be happy with Reddick as that versatile piece we are missing in the LB group, Foster if he falls although I like Reddick better. Some of you may laugh but I even think someone like Peppers would not be a wasted pick as his versatility would be extremely helpful to us in particular. He could play coverage LB on obvious passing downs and provide safety depth on run downs with davis taking over at ILB on those downs. Plus he adds some much needed pep to our return game. The other route to go if we go defensive would be trade back and pick someone like Adoree Jackson from USC who would solve the issue of CB depth and be a dynamic return threat thus killing two birds with one stone.

    That being said we still need to focus on offense in this draft and with 10 picks going defensive in a great class with our first round pick would not hamper us in our ability to do so and as we all know with very few needs on our defense could afford us to pepper the rest of the draft with offensive players.

    We should be able to find a few of the following from round 2 on which I see as our most pressing Offensive needs: OT, 3rd WR (either a slot and keep sanders outside, or a big boy and move sanders inside as he has the versatility to do so), TE (while I like our group and think they have potential to play better than people expect the fact remains they haven't done shit to this point and we need more production there so I'd rather add depth to that group), last RB (I'm a big CJ fan and think Booker can only improve from last year I hope as he has decent hands, but we need a homerun threat there).

    I won't get into too many specific names because I'm not as well versed in the later parts of the draft but OT in the first in this weak class is a complete waste IMO unless they believe this guy is a sure fire starter. Offensive linemen in today's NFL with the way the college game is take ages to develop and most likely they would still be the weak spot on our line even if they started. We would be better off taking a developmental prospect with upside than one of the top 3 guys (one who is 25 as a rookie, one coming off an injury and has passion concerns, and the other who many see as more of a RT or G fit) That screams not worth it to me. I'd rather take someone like Jul'ien Davenport and develop him with less expectations to start right away. I think WR, TE, and RB who fit what we need all could be found in the middle rounds. I'd add special emphasis on any player who fits our needs and also improves our return game simultaneously as that has been a horrible weakness of our team for too long now and we always give up way too much valuable field position.

    That is how I view our team at the moment and I offered a few names, but I am not opposed to taking best player available in first even if that is defense and then filling out the offense with the rest of the draft. And if we fail to find our starting OT and only select a developmental guy, then hopefully Elway wasn't lying about Sambraillo having a shot as I've heard he has been hitting the weight room to bulk up and strength was always his huge weakness, or we maybe still bring in a stop gap like King Dunlap until the rook is developed.

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    1. I agree virtually all of Atwaters analysis with the exception on our RB's. I agree that OT in the first round is shaky given the lack of top notch OTs in this draft. I would like to see a skill player with our 1st but if we go defense that is fine, especially if someone falls to us. Then I would like to see some offensive help in rounds 2 and 3. With two picks in the 3rd, we could go offense and defense.

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    2. Yeah I may like CJ more than most as in my view he always displays heart even when others on the team have seemed to give up he keeps playing hard and churning out those yards. I think he is fairly well rounded, without being a home run threat. Booker could help us with the pass game downs, but he needs to show dramatic improvement from last year for me to feel great about him. I still would like us to get a home run threat RB who can stretch the outside of the field at some point in this draft, but if we get a 1 trick pony then that 1 trick pony should come later not earlier. While I also find what Mixon did to be deplorable if we are speaking strictly in the football sense and value he brings I would be happy to get him in round 2 over moving up to grab Eddy Mac's son for example. Even if the fan in me would love to have him as a bronco I see more value in if we move up grabbing someone like OJ Howard and then trying to get mixon in rd 2 over Mac and whatever that 2nd rounder would end up being.

      Glad OBF and I can agree on some things haha!

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    3. I'm kind of coming around on Mixon. I was impressed by the joint press release issued by him and his victim. She got paid I'm sure, but she acknowledges that she was also in the wrong by slapping him. No excuse but let's hope they both learned from the incident.

      When I was 17 and at a party, a girl that did not like me and was dating my friend was drunk and slapped me unexpectedly after I called her a "chick". I wanted to hit her but refrained and just walked away fuming. So, if he learned, and it is a gruesome video, I have changed my mind and I am ok with drafting him, just not in the 1st round. Don't want the risk of wasting a 1st round pick and willing to give him a second chance only if he falls to us in at least the 2nd round.

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  81. Also what's going on fellas, haven't been on as much lately, but thought I'd pop in and put in my two cents since draft time is one of my favorite times of year.

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    1. What's going on? The draft! Today it begins, who you picking? I got my fingers crossed for my guy Rigoberto Sanchez, the kicker from Hawaii with our #20... (unless we have to trade up to land him of course). This one's for you Pat!

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  82. Better shore up that run defense with Ezekiel Elliot and Marshawn Lynch coming up. Lynch twice.

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    1. Don't forget the likely addition of Blount to the giants if the rumors are true, Gillislee and his 5.7 ypc to NE, Melvin Gordon who was vastly improved last year, Lesean McCoy, and Jay Ajayi also are on our schedule as well.

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    2. Right. The Falcons destroyed us last year with passed to RB's and then the Raiders ran it down our throat.

      We signed a few big DL. Like us to draft a potential Malik replacement also. Had to let Malik go with Von Miller needing to get signed, but we sure miss him.

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    1. I'm fine with small and fast if they always play recklessly. And if they are dispensable.

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  84. I think its awesome we all agree on the holes and types of players we need to fit them.

    I hate that Lynch is going to the Raiders. If he still got something he will be a monster behind that line.

    For this reason we need to shore up the run D. Falcons and other teams killed us because they picked on the match up with Todd Davis. He needs to be upgraded...Reddick.

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  85. See the report on joe Thomas having short term memory loss. That's a sign you need to retire.

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  86. Mayock has us taking Ramczyk. If we were going to go tackle for LT he is the one I'd pick of the three. He had McCaffery at 8 and Reddick at 16.

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  87. If we are doing LT, hopefully we can trade down and still get who we want.

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