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Thursday, January 19, 2017

Off season moves coming up!

Let the mock drafts and free agent signings begin!

200 comments:

  1. So the Raiders are moving to sin city. Somehow that seems appropriate. I wonder if the fans will follow them or give them the San Diego treatment?

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    1. I guess shooting crap on the field is better than shitting on it. They should bring back Stabler for "snake eyes" ...

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    3. Maybe even trade for "Luck" since they can't play "Texas Hold'em" - Hahaha! The Jokers are wild in Vegas - man, I can't stop! Too bad Del Rio isn't black! On a roll here...!

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    4. New meaning for the "black hole?"

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    5. I meant "Blackjack" for JDR... "black hole" won't change - just the address. "Slot receivers" may have a new meaning though! LOL!

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    6. I wondered about the "black". Could not figure it out. haha

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  2. Brock Olivo is ST coach.

    Dennsion is OC for the Bills.

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    1. Brock. Where have i heard that name before?? Or was it Bert or Brett or something like that??

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    2. I think it was Broke. Or maybe just Bent.

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    3. Well if it was Bent or Broke... than no wonder we threw it out.

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    4. So everyone arguing about why did we kick Wade out should know that, even if it isn't broke yet, we WILL throw it out if it's just bent. The run D was bad! Giving up huge gains to TEs, speedy WR/RBs and scrambling QBS is still a major issue. AND KC has that formula to beat us with that. We needed change on D too. We need to stop saying a MLB that can stop the run and drop into coverage is not very important. The #1 guy Head mentioned, Foster, will not be there at #20. What do you guys suggest we do?

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  3. Gone

    HC Gary Kubiak
    DC Wade Phillips
    OC Rick Dennison
    ST coordinator Joe DeCamillis
    OL coach Clancey Barone
    ST assistant Tony Coakum
    OL assistant Jim Gregg
    TE coach Brian Pariani
    QB coach Greg Knapp

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    HC Vance Joseph
    OC Mike McCoy
    DC Joe Woods
    LB coach Reggie Herring
    DL coach Bill Kollar
    WR coach Tyke Tolbert
    QB coach Bill Musgrave
    RB coach Eric Studesville
    OL coach Jeff Davidson
    Strength Coach Luke Richesson
    Assistant OL coach John Benton
    DB coach Marcus Robertson
    OLB coach Fred Pagac
    ST coordinator Brock Olivo

    I think we still need a TEs coach. Anything else?
    MHR referred to it as the A-Team. I wouldn't go that far. What do you guys think? Maybe Brad could put a poll up on what we grade it.

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  4. Site could use lots of updates. Nevermind. Tax season. Oh well, put your grades of coaching changes in the comments.

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    1. Speaking of the site. Does anyone have admin access that shows if many (any?) people visit the site regularly but do not comment?

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  5. I'm sure John Elway visits the site, but I have never seen him comment.

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  6. Just Brad and dhag.

    Elway reads us. How else would've he known the first order of business was to clean house on coaches? I just didn't think he would listen.

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  7. Head
    If anybody but us do come here I'm thinking they would think it's probably shut down just by looking around and not seeing the comments are still active.
    The poll up top is a year old. Ring of Famers from a few years ago. Still in Tebow to DT glory. Back to Back rings, but nothing of our latest. A lot of pictures for some guy named Rocky. Dawkins, Champ and Nalen are royalty. It needs some work.

    Oh, and OBF and Gould aren't a contributer, but some guys who haven't been here in years are.

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  8. So George Chryst is going to be our tight ends coach. Looks like a great resume as former OC and coaching since 91. I have to admit I've never heard of him before!

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    1. I never heard of half our guys we hired. Biggest thing is new play calling on offense and different ST coach. I never thought JE would get rid of "friends" and start over.

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  9. Not liking the SD hiring of Gus Bradley as DC. Their D has lots of weapons. If they can fix their OL (which was hit with injuries) they will be tough. They also got a good RB coach or HC (can't remember who) that should improve their running game with Gordon.

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  10. I spent the evening last night with several fairly close friends from San Diego who were lifelong Charger fans. Emphasis on the were part. The Chargers moving to LA, at least for the ones I was with last night, would be like Denver picking up and moving to Oakland. I knew San Diego is way different than LA and SD people didn't like LA but I didn't realize how deep the animosity is. Everyone of them is looking for a new team to root for. They were saying that San Diego State (Aztecs?) Sold like 1600 season tickets in the week or so after the Chargers made their announcement and the MLS moved San Diego to the number one spot for expansion.

    What a shitty thing to do to your fan base.

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    1. Yeah.
      So LA will have 3 teams next year? Raiders won't be able to play anywhere in LV for a couple of years. SD will play in LA next year, right?

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    2. 2 teams sharing a stadium shouldn't be allowed. Not even the NYC teams.

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  11. Aren't the raiders back in Oakland now though? So two LA teams for next year?

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    1. They have been back in Oakland for a decade or so if I recall.

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    2. I checked. They have been back in Oakland since 1995. Two decades.

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  12. Walter football has ILB Foster at #32.

    A mock on predominantly orange had us taking this guy at #20. Never heard of him before today.
    David Njoku, TE, Miami. 
    The 6-foot-4, 245-pound Njoku is a freak athlete who has size, athleticism, and excellent speed. The junior had 43 receptions for 698 yards with eight touchdowns in 2016 despite Miami not using him as much as it should. Sources said that the coaching staff loves tight end Chris Herndon as a worker and teammate, so they tried to reward him by splitting tight end targets with Njoku. The underachieving play of Brad Kaaya also hurt Njoku's production with the quarterback's propensity to watch the pass rush and take sacks. Njoku could be a real mismatch weapon in the NFL and will need to develop his route-running, but he could be a devastating receiver.

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  13. Shanny Jr. with Matty ice is killing the pack 17-0 in the 2nd qtr.

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  14. I wonder if Elway is second guessing himself now with Kyle being a leader of men. Seems to me he is doing a pretty damn good job with leading the offense.

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    1. I'm good with what we have. Shanny is ready though and will do great in SF, IMO.

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    2. I am not sure yet. I would have rather kept the defense as is and have Shanahan come in as head coach and blow up the offensive coaching staff with his guys. We really only needed an offense and I worry that our defense will not be as strong under Woods. Wade was a master at creating matchup problems and mixing guys in to utilize their talents. We really didn't add that much on defense after Fox left and our defense became so much better with Wade. I think the only big addition we added was Ware and he didn't pkay half the year. Granted he was a major force in the playoffs, but he didn't do a ton during the season because of back issues mid season.

      I just don't want to see the defense suffer because of a change on the defensive coaching staff that really wasn't necessary. Despite the injuries, Wade did one hell of a job this year. Yes there were some issues eary in games that I didn't like, but he was able to make adjustments and he was able to have a great unit all season despite having guys on the fied for about 40 minutes a game.

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    3. I liked Wade as much as you guys. I'm not disappointed he left though. We had to keep Woods, IMO, a D I feel he may have had offers as a DC somewhere else. The no-fly zone is not just the talent we have, it's Woods. The reason our run D suffered is because we are so tough against the pass. That and BM's and Wolfe's injuries. Oh and the offense sucked so bad they were tired out all the time. Our D is fine. Better than fine. With or without Wade. Joseph will keep it that way. Kyle would've eventually changed it over to the offense being the focus. I want the D to remain to get the primary focus. With a better OL and play calling improvement (that won't take much) we are still a SB winning team. Minor setback this year with the two young QBs and an OL that never seemed to grasp the ZBS.

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  15. It would have been sweet to see the Pats lose but now that I think about it, losing in the SB will be even sweeter!

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    1. I want the Falcons to drop 50 on them.

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    2. And hold Brady to 10 with 10 sacks.

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  16. Sanders opening his yap again, this time about Romo coming to Denver. Overtime EM opens his mouth, I lose some respect for him. Too bad bonehead players have so much talent.

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    1. Typical selfish professional athlete of today

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    2. OBF - I agree 100%. The ME, ME, ME, NOW, NOW, NOW! bullshit needs to end - it's destroying the game.

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    3. And America. Yeah, I went there!

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  17. I know we've talked about Romo in previous threads, but NO! Sanders would be playing with Siemian or Lynch by the end of the first game anyway with the offensive line we trotted out there last year. Every year here in Dallas there are open betting lines on how many games into the season Romo will last.

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    1. People seem to equate going for PFM, arguably one of the greatest ever, with the Broncos being a retirement or nursing home for ex-QBs... complete with golden parachute pensions!

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  18. You guys gotta see this video on Elway, WHAT A FUCKING HOOT!
    http://www.denverpost.com/2017/01/23/john-elway-taxi-cab-video/

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  19. From Pro Football Rumors

    There is a chance that Pittsburgh’s 36-17 loss to New England in Sunday’s AFC title game will go down as the final contest of Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger‘s career. In an interview with 93.7 The Fan in Pittsburgh, Roethlisberger was unwilling to commit to returning in 2017 for what would be his age-35 season.

    “I’m going to take this offseason to evaluate, to consider all options,” he said (via CBS Pittsburgh). “To consider health, and family and things like that and just kind of take some time away to evaluate next season, if there’s going to be a next season.”

    If there isn’t a next season for Roethlisberger, it would heavily affect the Steelers and the rest of the NFL, of course. Pittsburgh has regularly been a league superpower since it drafted Roethlisberger 11th overall in 2004, having finished with no fewer than eight wins during any of his 13 seasons and gone to the playoffs nine times. Two of those postseason trips have culminated in Super Bowl victories, the latest of which came at the conclusion of the 2009 campaign.

    Roethlisberger has missed a combined six games because of injuries over the past two seasons, but his production has remained strong. He’s now fresh off his fifth Pro Bowl season, in which he completed 64.4 percent of his 509 passing attempts, amassed 3,819 yards on 7.5 YPA, and tossed 29 touchdowns against 13 interceptions.

    In the two games Roethlisberger sat out in 2016, the Steelers turned to backup Landry Jones, who has been a mixed bag in 15 career appearances and also isn’t guaranteed to return to the club next season. Unlike Roethlisberger, Jones is set to become a free agent. Roethlisberger has three years remaining on the contract extension he signed in 2015. He’d owe the Steelers $18.6MM if he were to walk away, according to Jason Fitzgerald of Over the Cap (Twitter link), which makes an early exit seem unlikely.

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  20. Broncos are preparing to defend their Super Bowl Title.

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  21. I think they are preparing to have another frustrating year with all new coaches and a new offense and new offensive line. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt we go undefeated this year....

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  22. Broncos play the Falcons in Super Bowl LI

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    1. Are you in a pretend/dream world? Since it's SB LI, you decided to lie to yourself?

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    2. I was waiting for that punchline... LOL!

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  23. What punchline? It's true damn it. I said it on Twitter, so it's true.

    Looking for tickets right now.

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    1. No facts needed for twitter! If saw it so it must be true. Can you make tickets on sale? Starting at $20?

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  24. Anybody on here think that even though we didn't take Sky's 5th year option we may still want him? I don't think he's to bad. Certainly not deserving of all the blame for the run D being poor this year.

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    1. He is serviceable, his 5th year option was way to much for a NT. He could resign here on a cheaper deal, may want him after letting kilgo go.

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    2. I'd take him at a reasonable salary. I think he is average to good. He is not good to great.

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    3. No not great. The 5th year option would've been around 6.4M. What is fair deal for an average NT. Hankins is a FA but he hasn't done much better.

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    5. We've got 4 Cs on the team in Paradis, Ferentz, Dillion and Brenner - plus I think Garcia and Turner plays C for part of their college years. Seems like a lot. Either they aren't sold on Paradis or they're looking for a solid BU.

      As for Sly, I think he stays but not at $6+M. There are several NTs in the draft at mid to lower rounds that we may target but Sly was a 1st rounder and JE will likely give him more leeway, IMO.

      Hopefully Gotsis steps up in his 2nd year and helps fill the run gaps. Crick had one of his better years in 2016 and he may stick as the starter with Gotsis seeing more snaps in relief but Crick didn't do all that well early on although he did improve later.

      We also need a MLB who can penetrate to stop the run while also being able to drop in coverage over the middle. Marshall has problems in coverage and while Nelson is better, he's not as good against the run. Then there's Anderson who's shown he can do both but isn't consistent... but he's young, just going into year 2. All 3 may get better with the right coaching but look to see Anderson pushing in TC.

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    6. Forgot to include Walker, getting him back with Wolfe will help stuff the runs.

      And Iosia Iosia, I have no idea what he can do but the name kills me. Here's his highlight reel, the kid looks lke a mauler. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY2QWkxz1uc

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    7. Ferentz is to small. Dillon and Brenner can fight it out for backup. Actually Paradis may not be ready for a while. Double hip repairs.

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    8. Paradis will be ready. The hip repairs are akin to scoping a knee, just cleaning out debris. He's stated he will be ready for OTAs so TC shouldn't be a problem. Heck, my 92 year old mother broke he hip less than 2 months ago and they had he up walking the next day. I agree Ferentz is too small. He's fine for ZBS but as we go to more PBS, I don't see the need for him.

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    9. We also forgot to mention Peko at NT. He'll be starting his 2nd year, is a little smaller than Sly and if we're taling run stuffers, I haven't seen much of that from him in the limited time he played. Of course, I wasn't very focused on him either. I wonder if JE does bring in another NT?

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    10. I think we will be fairly content this year as far as bringing new guys in. Many fans are calling for the big signings, but I'm thinking 10 draft picks and getting guys healthy and re-signed would get us a long way. Our Gs are better suited for the PBS. Paradis isn't very big, does the C have to be? Redo Okung's contract and we're OK minus a RT. There are those in this draft, just not the franchise LT.
      Defense is in good shape if Marshall and Wolfe are healed. It's a matter of do we want to pay Sly or go cheap by starting Peko or a draft pick. I bet we try to keep Sly once he finds out his market. Webster will get looks elsewhere too. Not sure on Walker. If that's the case though, do we even want him? I'd guess Ware won't want to go anywhere for 1 more year. Maybe we force his retirement, but I hope we take him as a rotational guy again. From the list below I say we keep all the "W" named guys. Thank God Norwood is a FA! See ya!

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    11. I agree, there will be less shake up than some expect or are calling for. Reasons are, the draft isn't deep at OT and neither are FAs. When things are scarce, you make do with what you have. Redoing Okung's contract is the only way we pickup his $1M option IMO. So I'm with you on yer first paragraph.

      The 2nd paragraph I pretty much agree except IMO, we do need a DE. Crick is a rotational guy and Walker? who Knows. 2016 was his contract year to prove his value and the guy never played a snap. I'm fairly sure he'll want more than what we offer, so he could walk but that would be stupid for him. I think we offer him a "show me" contract and move on if he balks. After his injury, he may not be worth anything or he may step it up a notch - odds are against him though.

      Then there's Ware. He had disc surgery almost a month ago and without that pinching his nerves and the pain that goes with it, he may have several years left in the tank. Lord knows he didn't get much ware (nice play on words) in Denver. Maybe trade him back to the Cows who are looking for pass rush help. It'd make a nice story for him to retire where he got his fame... maybe get him another ring? I hate to say this but, there is the Romo talk and that's about all I'd offer (Ware) - if we did resign him. I wouldn't want Romo in Denver, but if JE wants him, that's the route I'd go (trading Ware for Romo). If not, we may get some renewed mileage out of DW with his repaired disc.

      Did you watch the Iosia Iosia video I posted below? I know it's highlights (lots though) but I think he may have a chance to make the team if Walker walks.

      As for the rest, I'd like to keep Webster if the price is right, Forsett is gone (although he did OK all things considered), Gafford is gone since we have Kreiter off IR and just signed Overbaugh on PS. Norwwood likely gone, definely won't be returning anymore kicks but may stay in the WR stable, Winn gone and Dakota, I'm not sure about - his inconsistency and age may make him expendable but who knows, his contract would be cheap - maybe as another BU since he knows the defense and his role, but we aren't going into a bidding war for him IMO.

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    12. Above you mean.
      I watched them just now. Small school guy so he dominated games. Great motor though. Looked good. Weird name. Is he already a Bronco?

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    13. A recent signing. Surprised he didn't make a team last year.

      Now I see what you mean about all the Cs.

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  25. Geep Christ is officially our new tight ends coach, so we've got that going for us this year. I'm sure that will turn Virgil and Heurman into Shannon Sharpe.

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    1. I thought you were saying we got Christ going for us this year. After all God's a Bronco fan already. That's why sunsets are orange and blue. We'll take him, we need all help we can.

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    2. Lol! I did spell his last name wrong.

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  26. Our FAs
    DeMarcus Ware OLB
    Vance Walker DE
    Sylvester Williams DT
    Justin Forsett RB
    Thomas Gafford LS
    Jordan Norwood WR
    Dekoda Watson OLB
    Billy Winn DE
    Kayvon Webster CB

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  27. Hey Brad, how's the tax man doing? Missing you buddy but I know you must be in high gear about this time. No worries, I'll try to make some dumb comments for you LOL! No, seriously, take a break and shoot us a line or two...

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    1. All work and no play makes Brad a dull guy. 😆

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    2. It really must suck to have a job. Retired is the place to be!! 😆

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    3. Temporary unemployment for me right now. Concrete work in Iowa during the winter doesn't mix.

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  28. Looking at the roster and knowing our needs (run defense and offense) I know the primary focus in FA and the draft will be geared toward stenghtening that. Elway said something about the focus being pass rush,IDK, if he meant getting a pash rush guy who can also do better against the run or what. I think Mario Williams would be a good waiver wire pick up. He's not cut yet, but probably will be. In our 3-4 he could be DE. Let Walker walk. It would count toward us getting a C possible comp pick for 2018. Rotoworld had something about Gotsis not being able to beat out Crick and Crick sucking against the run. We have no idea if Wolfe will be able to get fully heathy again. We need something better at DE in 2017.

    ILB. Hopefully, Vance sees it as more of a need than previous coaches have. Marshall is OK if healthy. Davis, Nelson and others proved they are not all that great. I want an ILB at the top of the draft. No way does the guy we talked about from Alabama make it to us at #20. How high up would we have to go for him? How do you guys feel about trading up for defense when offense sucked so bad?

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  29. I don't think we can fix the offense through the draft, especially with our first pick being so late. Unless you're in the top 10 or so picks, I don't think we'd get a starting ready o lineman - which is what we need. The O line will have to be fixed through free agency.

    If we can fix the D with a stud MLB, we would need to move up 10-15 (??) spots. We have enough draft picks this year to use some to move up, but maybe not high enough to get what we need.

    I guess to directly answer your question, we stand a better chance of moving up and grabbing a defensive player who could start than we do of moving up and finding on offensive player to help this year, so yes, is be for it.

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    1. Me too, for Foster. 1st round trade ups are spend though. If we were to use our 1st and 3rd, I think we could get to 15-16 range. IDK if that gets us high enough for a top ten talent like he is. QBs going above their value and the overdrafting of OL (lots of teams needing help there) may drop a lower value position such as ILB down to where we could get him. CBs and pass rushing specialists are valued more too. It's highly possible we have two late 3rd round picks in comp picks also, so we can afford to do this. I for one hope we do.

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  30. I may need to watch more tape but I wasn't impressed with foster.

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      I didn't watch any tape. Haha.
      I just want a 1st round MLB. A franchise 10 year kind of guy. He seems like the only one worthy

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    2. I think he is a good talent but he played on a D with a lot of good talent. I'm always concerned with Bama defensive players because as a collective they are good but does that hide their issues? So far I just haven't seen enough from foster.

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  31. Sorry guys.

    B1st,

    Im no longer in public accounting. In May it will be two years that I have been gone. My boss, the CFO (and soon to be my job when she retires) has been in the hospital for a month. So between doing my job, her job, interviewing for a retiring person in our dept, and working on three software integrations, i have been really really busy.

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  32. Crick had an ok year as a pass rusher, but he was putrid as a run defender. The fact that Gotsis couldn't get on the field more speaks volumes to his development this year. He is cleary raw and needs more time.

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    1. Ya that was a bit of a shock! Obviously a bright guy with a lot of ability, but I'm not sure how being an announcer qualifies you to be a GM. You'd think some front office experience of some kind would be required. So either a real lack of talent for GMs right now or Lynch has been doing some moonlighting gaining experience. Or he has pictures of some team official with farm animals...

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  34. I saw that too. Not sure how great of a job he will do at evaluating talent. You would think they would want him in the scouting department somewhere before he gets a job like that. Just another questionable decision by a once proud franchise, that as recently as three years ago was nearly at the top of the league again after a long time. Look how quickly they have fallen. I think they need to clean house in upper mgmt.

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    1. Yeah they do. Will quickly turn into the Browns west.

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    2. Shanny Jr. will do all work. Lynch is kind of an apprentice I think. He signed for 6 years though. Huge. Sounds like he's there as long a Kyle keeps his job. It was tough for them to find someone. The owners suck. The job was just a figure head pretty much. Total rebuild needed. Hey, if they both stay around a while, the Broncos have a NFC counter part to work with. We already worked well, but now, even more, I'd bet. Plus, we rebuilt fast after McDestroyer, so they have a blueprint. Build the D, wait for the right QB opportunity (or opportunities) to come along. My guess is they don't fuck around with Gabbert and Kapernick anymore and start fresh. My guess is they don't take a QB at #2 unless they really like him. My bet is they hope Clev falls for a QB or someone trades up with them for one, so they can get Myles Garrett at #2. Much like us when we got Von.

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  35. Head, it will be hard to fix the OL in free agency. There is not much talent at OL hitting the market this year.

    Brad, sounds like you are way busy, plus with hanging out with Kyle Orton and everything.

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      I agree. FA will have OGs, but OTs will be re-signed by their teams. We have decent OG prospects galore with our failed OTs being given a shot there. We do not need more OG help, IMO. We need Okung to re-do his contract (I'm not sure I would if I was him), dump Stevenson (even though we will take a pretty big hit) and draft a starting RT. Or two.

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  36. I also feel we need to address the D-line heavily in FA and the draft. Re-sign Sly or get a NT in FA and use a draft pick on getting another in the top 4 rounds. Re-sign Walker or get a 3-4 DE in FA and draft one in the top 4 picks. Wolfe's injury is more serious than they are letting on, I think. Get a fricking ILB already! BM is OK when he plays. Davis, Nelson and company, not so much. Draft one in the top of the draft, PLEASE! We also need a speedy slot WR/return guy. Those should be our top 5 picks, IMO. Not a TE like everyone keeps mocking to us.
    So, IMO, 1.RT/ILB 2.RT/ILB 3.NT/DE/WR 4.NT/DE/WR 5.NT/DE/WR
    Then, starting round 4 (or round 5 if we use one of our top 5 picks to move up for someone) with depth guys like CB, TE, RB, QB, whatever falls to us.

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  37. Report floating around Broncos are interested in Ted Ginn for a deep threat and return guy. I don't mind this idea.

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    1. I would be fine with that. Especially being an Ohio State guy.

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  38. I like him for a return guy. Not sure we have a polished enough QB yet to need another deep threat (assuming that Sanders is a deep threat). Wonder if he could play the slot?

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    1. He played the slot his first year here when Decker was still here. He took over for Wes Mantooth Welker. He can definitely play there.

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    2. Wrong Brad. Sanders was never in Denver the same time as Decker. Sanders signed the same year that Decker left. They never played together.

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  39. The Romo to Denver rumors just wont die. A story out today in the USA today says that if the Cowboys cut Romo instead of taking the $24 mil hit, Romo would accept a pay-cut to play for the Broncos.

    Another story says the Broncos offered John Lynch jobs many times, but he wanted to wait for the right time to leave the booth. makes you wonder what the Broncos offered and if Lynch would have left for anything other than a GM job.

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  40. Our head of college scouting got hired by the niners as their player personnel guy.

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    1. Does he start this year? If so is he gonna steal our guys?

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    2. No he starts in 5 years. haha

      Yes, he starts now and which guys? our scouts?


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    3. Ass!

      No our guys we want to draft.

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    4. Sure he will take his scouting info with him.

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  41. From 9 News - Three Broncos’ offensive starters – running back C.J. Anderson, center Matt Paradis and quarterback Trevor Siemian – are encouraged with the way they are coming along following their respective surgeries.

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  42. Well that is certainly good news. we could sure use a healthy Anderson and Paradis next year. Siemian being healhty would be a plus too. That is one competition that will be interesting to watch with a new offensive system coming in.

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    1. I love CJ when he is healthy and playing hard, but he has yet to demonstrate that he can stay healthy or that he will always play hard for a whole season.

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    2. Seems like when he starts playing hard is when he gets hurt though.

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  43. With Alex Mack having a leg issue Ben Garland may play center for the falcons in the SB.

    That is pretty cool for him.

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      I thought so too.
      I know none of the OL we have all over the league are not that great, but we do have a bunch of them. Many of whom I would take back over the guys we have now. Top that off with us failing on our FA fixes last year and now we're switching schemes again. Wonderful! At least most of the guys Kubiak picked up can play (maybe better) the PBS.

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  44. Per the Denver Post

    March 9: Deadline for the Broncos to exercise LT Russell Okung’s $1 million option for 2017. If exercised, Okung’s $2 million base salary for 2017, $9.5 million base salary for 2018 and $8 million roster bonus all become fully guaranteed, for a payout of $19.5 million. He can also earn up to $1.5 million in per-game roster bonuses.

    March 13: OT Donald Stephenson’s $4 million salary becomes fully guaranteed. Stephenson has a $5 million cap hit for 2017 with $2 million in dead money if released, which means the Broncos would save $3 million in cap space if he’s cut before this deadline.

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    1. I knew Okung was the 9th cause that the start of the new year and when FA opens. I thought we had one more day on Stevenson though. I heard it was 5 days after the beginning of the new year. Oh well. I have no idea what we should do on Okung. I'm thinking just sign his option. I know it's to much money and we will be stuck with him for 2 years for sure, but unless we're positive we can replace him, we're kinda stuck. Some say just redo his contract. All I can say to that is would you if you were in his shoes? I wouldn't. Stevenson has to be cut! However, I bet they wait to see if they can replace him in FA first.

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  45. I hope Elway isn't paying attention today:

    As has been rumored for quite some time, Adam Schefter reports that Colin Kaepernick will become a free agent after he opts out of his 49ers contract later this offseason.

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  46. TD to be inducted into the HOF!

    Its about damn time.

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    1. Whoop whoop! Greatest news of the day.

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    2. Yea!
      Maybe I'll go. Wonder how far it is to Canton.

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    3. Great!! I really didn't think they would let him in.

      I attended the enshrinement ceremony when Walter Payton was inducted. It was pretty cool, I'll have to admit.

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  47. I think i am going. I was going to go when Elway went in, but didn't. I couldn't go when Sharpe went in. Think I am going. It isn't too far from me and is almost on the way to my parents in Ohio.

    If any of you guys go, let me know. We'll have to meet up.

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  48. Digger, youre in Iowa right?

    I lived in Blue Grass Iowa near Davenport and it was about 500 miles to Columbus Ohio. It is a little bit further north than there so it may be a bit further overall. It is about 350-400 for me.

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    1. Yeah. NW Iowa. About an hour east of Sioux Falls, SD. I Google it. 900 miles.

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  49. So far so good on Brady losing.

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    1. Love seeing Tommy in tears... and Josh... and Bill... but the fans - priceless!

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    2. I really, REALLY believe I'm a jinx! I've got to learn to limit my comments until after the final whistle is blown.

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  50. Amazing!
    Respect to Bill and Brady. None to Mc Dumbledore though. Hate him so fricking bad.

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  51. Disgusting... really, disgusting.

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  52. Wow. Atlanta thought they had it in the bag too early and started playing conservative. Pissed it away.

    That sucks.

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  53. I thought good ole Shanny made some huge mistakes in the 4th qtr. Maybe we picked the right guy.

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  54. Here's a good interview with Trevor with the latest post-surgery and more...

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    1. Ooops, forgot to add the link!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egZhVKVr6hs

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    2. And in case we forgot, some Trevor love...
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNAwNAcChns

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    3. Another Trevor interview (obviously same day) but with Boomer and Carton interviewing...
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYdqaUYzkC0

      Ya, I'm a Siemian Homer!

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  55. I think White was robbed of the Superbowl MVP.

    Was a hell of a game but.

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  56. Ok enough with the Pats. Lets get the lombardy trophy back in Denver next year. It starts with free agency. I am wondering (think someone else also said it) if our o linemen may be more serviceable in the power scheme than what they were under the ZBS. I wonder if Elway would consider bringing Vazques back. He would fit well under that and would be familiar with McCoys offense.

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    1. Did you see that Vegas gave us the 2nd best odds of AFC teams behind NE?

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    2. Digger, we were actually 3rd, behind NE and Pissburgh

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    3. I'm surprised that we were not also behind the Raiders.

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    4. Funny, the DP article says we're 6th best odds...
      http://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/06/super-bowl-lii-odds-broncos-sixth/

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    5. That changed quite a bit. Steelers fans should've jumped on that 18-1 odds I saw. DP now has them at 12-1. We were 17-1 now 16-1.

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    6. Not funny Bronco 1st, we were talking about the AFC odds not the entire NFL

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  57. I don't think I'd bring Vazques back, Brad. I don't think he played at all last year and was ranked like the 48th or 50th guard when Elway cut him loose. The fact that he was uninjured and only one team even worked him out last year tells me he is done for good.

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  58. I'm seeing reports that Kyle Shannahan will not hire and Offensive Coordinator.

    Makes we wonder if he knows what the hell he's doing.

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    1. Chip off the old block?? His daddy sure wanted to control EVERYTHING.

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  59. SF and Atlanta both have gone stupid with coaching. Manuel as DC?

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  60. I wouldn't mind going after Calais Campbell, just don't know where we getting the money from.

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    1. People say we have about 40M to spend if we cut Stevenson and don't sign Okung's option. Campbell will cost over 10M yr. That would only leave 30M to get a LT, RT, return man(No more Norwood!), Sly or a replacement, Webster or a replacement, ect.

      I doubt we get Campbell. We need a 10M yr. LT not DE. Re-signing Walker and a draft pick DE hopefully will fill that hole. I agree though, Campbell would be nice. We have injury question marks about Walker and Wolfe. We know Crick sucks against the run. Even with all those questions, I feel NT is a bigger need on the D line. If Balt. leaves an opening to get Brandon Williams, I would rather sign him for big money and then plug the DE with cheaper guys. Gostis (sp) could play 3-4 DE I think, maybe re-sign Sly for cheap and play him as DE. Crick is serviceable in passing situations. Hopefully Wolfe gets better. Walker could be re-signed if he's ok. We need a better NT though. We also need to stop puss footing around and draft a fricking better ILB to play beside Marshall. Danny leaving hurt bad. He got injured again in Chicago too though so..... BM gets hurt all the time too! We need ILBs!

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    2. I sat next to Gotstis' sister at the season opener against Carolina. Neat young girl. Hope her brother develops into a decent player. Not very good right now, but we knew he was a project. We spent some high picks on projects last year with him and Lynch.

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    3. I think Elway thought we would be set for a few years where these guys would have time to develop before being forced to play. Unfortunately injuries forced them into action before they were ready.

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  61. Sounds like Webster is planning to go elsewhere and make a lot more money. I like him, but he has never developed into a starter IMO. He had a chance to make a name for himself when Talib was out and he couldn't get it done.

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    1. He was always ok but never as good as the three in front of him.

      Heck of a ST player though.

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  62. How cool is that? Sitting next to player's families? Wow!

    Webster was over drafted and under used. Now he is probably leaving to make a name for himself somewhere else if he can. That really is a tough pill to swallow. I guess I should be glad he wasn't a have to have once we got Talib. I should probably be thankful he wasn't the starter, IDK. At any rate, he won't be getting any starting offers or money elsewhere and if he leaves we'll have to replace him. Why is everyone so eager to kick our draft picks out after 4 years, watch them play somewhere else and then bitch Elway can't draft?

    We should re-sign Sly, Webster and Watson, IMO. None of them will be overpriced. If any of those 3 leave we need a different FA at their positions anyway. The other FAS we have this year that were actually FA before, re-sign them only if they want to give us a deal to stay. I'm talking Ware, Walker, Okung. If we didn't draft them and they don't take our offer, screw 'em.

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  63. Giants with a couple releases a few weeks early. Jennings and Cruz. I wonder if other teams will follow suit. I hope we cut Stevenson soon. I can't think of any others that are on the roster and are not worth their money. Maybe Virgil Green or Jared Crick. IDK. Norwood is FA. Okung is just a don't sign his $1M bonus which would kick in his 4 yr/48M, I think. Anybody know of anyone else we should/could cut?

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    1. I think the main decisions will be on Okung, Stevenson and Ware.

      That will drive the rest of free agency

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    1. How do feel about those 3?
      Any of them you feel we should sign or pay the bonus they're owed before FA starts or just let all our FAs go find out what their worth somewhere else first.

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    2. Oddly, i don't have strong thoughts. Would be nice to have Ware back as a leader, but only at a way reduced salary. He did not do much last year.

      Okung, only back a a renegotiated contract. Maybe we can screw him over again. Not many options at LT.

      Stevenson. Who cares?

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    3. I feel all 3 should be allowed to hit the open market March 9. Or actually March 13 in Stevenson's case when we have to pay him the bonus owed or cut him. Then, if any of them want to stay they won't pursue FA to heavily. All, even Stevenson, could come back and try to make the roster, IMO, on a contract with no guarantees. Just a one year deal pretty much. It could be written as more years, but give us an out after 2017. I doubt any of them do that. Maybe Ware will.

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  65. Per 9 news in Denver

    The Broncos have reached out to Kayvon Webster in hopes re-signing their special teams standout and backup cornerback before he hits free agency next month, according to a league source.

    It may be a tricky negotiation because Webster no doubt would like a chance to at least become a nickel back, if not start, and the Broncos still have three cornerbacks ahead of him in Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr. and Bradley Roby.

    Then again, Broncos safety David Bruton Jr. was in a similar situation last season and he chose to sign with Washington because the long-time special teams standout wanted a chance to start. Bruton wound up getting placed on season-ending injured reserve after four games and released after the season.

    Sometimes, a player benefits from a fresh start. And sometimes a player is better off sticking with people who have long believed in him.

    As a special teams player, Webster has established himself the past two seasons as one of the best “gunners,’’ if not the best, in the league. As a cornerback, though, Webster averaged just 4.5 defensive plays in 13 games last year.

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    1. I like that a lot. I am so sick of him and Sly getting rode out of town so easily. It ranks right up there with the fighting over QBs. Thanks for the good news.

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  66. I think it will be harder to lure some free agents to Denver without Peyton Manning being here to pretty much guarantee a chance at a Super Bowl.

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    1. Well we do have the great D to lure them. Defense wins Championships, right?

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    2. I think most free agents will look at the Broncos as a team in transition without an established player at QB.

      Not saying that I do, but I think that's the consensus around the league.

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    3. I hear ya. Von is our franchise right now. New coaches. Young QBs. I think you're right.

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  67. Per Broncos Wire

    Sylvester Williams’ time with the Broncos has likely come to an end.

    Denver is expected to bring in a defensive tackle to replace Williams this offseason, according to KUSA-TV’s Mike Klis, implying that Williams will not be re-signed. Williams is set to become an unrestricted free agent on March 9.

    Williams (6-3, 313 pounds) was selected by the Broncos 28th overall out of North Carolina in the 2013 NFL draft. Last year, Denver opted not to use a fifth-year option on Williams, choosing to let him become a free agent this offseason. He earned $7,581,750 over the last four years.

    Williams has been a starter since 2014, but his production has not quite lived up to his first-round pick status. He recorded 29 tackles and one sack last season. He will hit the open market with 94 career tackles and six career sacks to his name.

    Without Williams, the team’s depth on the defensive line will become extremely thin. Derek Wolfe, Jared Crick and Adam Gotsis will return at defensive end, but Billy Winn and Vance Walker are set to become free agents. At defensive tackle, Kyle Peko is the only returning player.

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    1. I don't think that D line is going to strike fear into the hearts of many offensive coordinators.

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    2. Right, just like it did not this year.

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    3. I don't like it. I can see why though if he is expecting anything more than 3yrs/10M with maybe a 2M signing bonus. That would be max I think he is worth to us. Some other team in a 4-3 may have more use for him. He's not a very good 3-4 NT.

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  68. I say we reached out to Webster since I don't think he will get the money or the job he wants. So let him know we still have a spot for him if he wants to come back.

    We need more depth on the Dline. I think we target some big bodies.

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    1. Yeah. OBF only has us for Wolfe, Crick, Gostis and Peko. That's not much. I'm a gonna go look at the roster now.

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    2. Yeah other than our FAs of Williams, Walker and Winn we have two reserve/future DEs, Travis Raciti and Iosia Iosia. The 2nd one is the one 1st posted a video clip link of. He looked pretty good.

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    3. I think we could bring back both Walker and Winn as role players. Williams I think may get paid else where or could return, but he could be upgraded.

      Back to the days when we need DL depth again lol

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    4. When your draft picks either get to good to afford (Jackson) or not good enough to keep (Sly) or questionable because of injury (Wolfe) yes we're in directory need of multiple DL aquisitions again this year. I really don't put near as much stock as most who have Walker returning. First, his ACL was pretty bad, second, how good was he before the injury? OBF, how good was he at TC last year? Was not having him really the main reason Sly wasn't as good and the combo of those and Marshall getting hurt the reason for the run D to suffer so badly? Maybe the run D was so bad because a) they were on the field so much more with our 3 and outs and b)the pass D was so good, teams had to run on us.

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    5. LOL it changed dire to directory.

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  69. Seems like we may work out Cruz. I figured we would as much since we need a number 3. But I think Cruz is past it, his injuries are to much to come back from.

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  70. Sounds like we are trying to meet with Victor Cruz. Not a bad signing if he comes cheap and can produce some where he doesnmt have to be the number 1 or 2 guy and can stay healthy. I would like to see us air it out some like we did a few years back instead of dink and dunk like we did the last two or three years.

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  71. Seems like Center, kickers, safety, CB, and maybe G are the only positions on the team that DON'T need fixing this off season. Elway is gong to have to pull a lot of rabbits out of his hat. We have a lot of draft picks, but where they are won't contribute immediate impact players.

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    1. CBs are very good at the top this year. Getting one in the 1st or 2nd this year would take a lot of pressure off on Talib's contract being up next year. I'm not saying it's a need, just saying it would be nice to grab one of them if the draft falls that way.

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    2. Especially since Talib is such an idiot off the field. Despite all the needs, I still think we need to pick best player available with our early picks.

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  72. From the Denver Post

    The Broncos will be making key decisions soon to decide the breadth of their offensive line fix this off-season.

    Denver’s first big decision will be what to do with left tackle Russell Okung and his $1 million option. Picking up Okung’s option by March 8 would kick in a four-year, $48 million contract with $20.5 million guaranteed. It would be a surprise if the Broncos did so based on Okung’s up-and-down play in 2016 but the weakness of the free agent market makes it a possibility.

    Another option would be to see if Okung would accept a pay cut and restructure his contract. If Okung doesn’t go for that, he would likely find himself on the low-supply, high-demand left tackle free agent market hoping to receive more interest.

    Cincinnati’s Andrew Whitworth, 35, is the only legitimate left tackle on the free agent market who could be considered an upgrade over Okung, 29. It’s also unwise to count on a rookie starting left tackle, particularly in a down offensive tackle draft class.

    The Broncos could have more than $40 million in cap room when free agency begins March 9, but many teams are seeking offensive line upgrades. CBS salary cap analyst and former agent Joel Corry said the Broncos should consider offering Okung an $8 million a year restructure.

    It’s unlikely Okung would accept that figure, which is equal to what he made in 2016 after playing time incentives are figured in. After proving he could stay healthy for 16 games with the Broncos, Okung, who negotiated his deal without an agent, would have little incentive to drastically decrease his pay. Kansas City’s Eric Fisher set the market for average-to-solid left tackles when he signed a four-year, $48 million extension with $22 million guaranteed in July.

    That would leave Denver with four choices: begrudgingly pick up the option, exercise the transition tag between February 15 and March 1 for a one-year deal between $12-13 million, try to entice Okung to restructure at a happy medium or let him go.

    The Broncos are expected to have multiple new starters on the offensive line when the 2017 season begins. Right tackle Donald Stephenson is a prime candidate to be released. If Okung is not retained, the Broncos will need to find two new bookend tackles. And, guards Michael Schofield and Max Garcia may need to fight to keep their starting roles, too.

    There may be a desire for the Broncos to uproot most of the offensive line, but there’s also plenty of risk in that. Last season, the Broncos replaced four new starters and got worse.

    New offensive coordinator Mike McCoy and new offensive line coach Jeff Davidson are evaluating the roster and determining needs. McCoy promised the line will be better under Davidson than it was last season. The Broncos will run a combination of power and zone (or as Davidson calls it “elephants on parade”) schemes.

    “It’s going to be about us,” McCoy said. “What do our players do best?”

    They hope an insurgence of new talent coupled with Davidson’s teaching will get more out of their drafted prospects – Garcia, Schofield, Matt Paradis, Ty Sambrailo, Connor McGovern – and whomever starts at offensive tackle.

    Davidson said no decision has been made on Okung or Stephenson yet. But he did note that the new staff targets length, pass blocking ability and athleticism when evaluating offensive tackles.

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    1. OK. Now decipher length, pass blocking ability and athleticism into the FAs and draft picks. And Okung/Stevenson. And anybody else already on the roster that might be looked at as a T.

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  73. Clady and Beachem became FAS yesterday.

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  74. The Dolphins just released Brando Albert

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  75. Dolphins released DE Mario Williams.

    Dolphins released DT Earl Mitchell.

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  76. Per Broncos Wire

    Want to be an NFL head coach, Vance Joseph? Good luck. Your Denver Broncos will face the most difficult schedule in the entire league in 2017, according to CBS Sports.

    Now, it’s not Joseph’s fault the Broncos’ AFC West has improved greatly, with both the Oakland Raiders and Kansas City Chiefs making the playoffs last year. Heck, even the Los Angeles Chargers, with a long list of injuries, still nearly pulled off some upsets before losing games late in contests.

    It’s no surprise Denver plays the Chiefs, Raiders and Chargers twice each, which has been the case since divisional realignment in 2002. This year, however, the Broncos also have to compete against the NFC East, which rivaled the AFC West as the two top divisions in all of football in 2016.

    On top of that, the orange and blue must play the Super Bowl champion New England Patriots — luckily, it’s at home — as well as the Indianapolis Colts.

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      I'm going to copy and paste this on that one.

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